Randy Susan Meyers is the dazzling author of The Murderer's Daughter and The Comfort of Lies, her newest, about infidelity, marriage and motherhood. Thanks for being here, Randy!
Where did the idea
for this novel spark? I always feel that writers write the books that they need
to read themselves, that we write about the things that haunt us in some way.
Would you agree? Can you talk about this, please?
Writing The Comfort of
Lies drew me to dark places and gloomy themes (falling
hard for a man who isn’t yours; learning your husband has cheated; an unplanned pregnancy; thinking that you’re
not cut out for motherhood; giving
up a child for adoption; wrestling with the pull towards work and the demands
of motherhood; failing at work.) Blowing up emotional truths into a “what-if” novel forced me to
visit past sins of my own, sins that were visited upon me, and sins that had
always terrified me as my future possibilities.
I didn’t give up a baby for
adoption nor adopt a child, but with every pregnancy scare I had, I wondered
about the choices I might make. Infidelity? I struggled with the issue in ways
that allowed The Comfort of Lies to come frighteningly alive
in my mind (and hopefully on paper.) I haven’t suffered through all of my
characters’ crisis’ but I’ve been close enough to imagine them all far too
well.
People disappearing, or not being
what or whom one thought—these themes are at the core of my writing and my life.
The Comfort of Lies is not
autobiographical—but I drew on bad times in my life and exploded those
stretches into “could be far worse” and “what if.” I examined that thin line
teetering between morality and forgiveness.
The Comfort of Lies
is about the fierce intersection of three very different women, all swirling
around an adoption that happened five years prior, and it’s also about what it
really means to be a mother. Can you talk about that, please?
Motherhood. Isn’t is complicated and doesn’t it beg honest
examination? I had my first daughter when I was twenty-one. I barely remember
being an adult when I wasn’t a parent. I learned early that we are only as
happy as our unhappiest child.
The Comfort of Lies
asks if having children defines us. One female
character hates the routines of motherhood—does this prevent her from being a
good mother? Does anyone enjoy all moments of motherhood? Another gave up her
child and wonders if she thus lost any claim to considering herself a mother. A
male character learns about his child when she’s five years old—can he conjure
up instant love for her, and will his wife be able to withstand this split in
his loyalty?
All the characters wrestle with questions about adoption—but
none more than the adoptive mother, who believes she has no right to complain,
as though she’ll be judged harsher for owning up to the mind-numbing boredom
that all parents experience. Plus, she finds it reprehensible in herself that
she would rather be at work than with her child.
All characters are forced to examine the rights of a five-year-old
girl versus their own desires. There are often collisions between the wants and
needs of children and the wont and desire of their parents. On whose side should
the decision-making arrow fall? And, should parents hold secrets from their children?
Is this ultimately for the comfort of the adult or the child—and what price do
we pay for hiding truth from our sons and daughters?
My favorite
question is always about craft. What kind of writer are you? Do you plan things
out? Do you outline or do you just follow your pen? What’s your daily writing
life like?
I plan and outline, but only after I’ve pondered and held an
idea close. Sometimes my deliberation period is years long—but once I’ve
entered the planning, outlining and writing-first-draft phase, I move quickly.
My writing personality (I believe we all have creative dispositions)
requires a fairly linear approach:
·
Dream phase: aka, my murky
idea time. This often comes from an event or traumatic moment—either in my life
or the news—which engenders “what if” or “how could one possibly endure xyz?”
These ‘dreams’ are followed by or concomitant with characters climbing out of
the soup of imagination.
·
Overall planning stage: I
sit down and write a one or two page ‘essay’ of my book—what I call an
overview. It is meant for my eyes only; it’s me telling myself what the book is
about.
·
Research. I love this stage
and it’s not limited to a cold discrete time period. I need to have my
underpinning solid to move forward with authenticity and for my brain to work. I
pair my nonfiction study, Internet digging, and people-interviews with reading
as many memoirs around my topic as I can find.
·
Outlining: First I write a
series of plot points—scenes and incidents that must happen to tell my story. Then
these points (usually index cards) are put into the proper place on a timeline
and then outlined in drafty chapters and scenes.
·
Characters: I name and write
an overview of each character. (I can’t work without characters carrying a name
that rings for me.)
·
Simplified, I think of it
like this: Dream: A wolf who works
through manipulation instead of force. Story:
A wolf tries to trick a girl into becoming his dinner. Characters: Who is the damn wolf, who are his wolf-buddies, and who
is his prey? Outlining: How we get
from the wolf’s initial question of what he wants and how he’ll be thwarted to
his ultimate failure or success. What steps do the wolf and Little Red Riding
Hood take throughout the book?
And then I write many drafts, letting them cool off between
takes.
My daily writing life is fairly structured. I am lucky enough to
write full time. I get to work soon after my husband leaves for his job at 8 AM.
I divide my day (but not well) between what I consider the business of writing,
(everything from talking to my agent to interviews like this,) goofing off
(Facebook, Twitter, reading articles about the end of the book as we know it
and the death of publishing, mani-pedis, food-shopping) and writing fiction—whether
it be first draft, revision, or final pages before the book will be printed.
When my husband comes home, around 7, I try to close my
computer, but I’m not always good at that. I often go back to the computer at
night.
I don’t set myself micro-deadlines (such as X words a day,
something that works for many) but instead stick to making a macro calendar. I
will mark exactly what month/day/week I expect to complete a draft and then operate
as thought my life depends on getting that draft done. Overall, I’m a harsh
boss to myself (making me wonder what the hell I was like when I was a director
in a variety of human service agencies.)
Do you think there
ever is a moment when we should lie?
Should?
Yes.
When someone asks you if they look fat or old, or if the haircut
they just got looks okay, they’re rarely looking for unvarnished truth—they
want reassurance. One’s relationship with the person should presage the answer
to whether you should lie or be truthful. For instance, I expect my husband to
tell the truth 85.5 % of the time—and he knows exactly where, what, and why.
When I worked with batterers and abusive men (for ten years)
they constantly claimed their abusive behavior was simply ‘being truthful’: “But she is fat, so why shouldn’t I
tell her, right?” Truth is often used as a weapon. William Blake wrote, “A truth that's told with bad intent. Beats
all the lies you can invent.”
Exploring lies is the backbone of my book—the lies we tell
ourselves to feel better, and the lies we think are for the protection of
others, but which serve to hide our darker side. In the end, I could only
conclude that the “comfort of lies” is sometimes a necessary evil, but is
usually a thin consolation indeed.
What’s obsessing
you now and why?
I am wrestling with weighty issues right now—literally. Having
just finished a draft of my third novel, my mind is wandering to novel number
four, an idea that’s been in dream stage for a long time. I’ve had the first
line for many years, and the character is slowly taking shape—as is her
crucible. The underpinning is that which has most every woman I know by the
throat: how much do you weigh and how much do you want to weigh? It sounds
comical, but few find it so, right?
What question
didn’t I ask that I should have?
That’s the question of when
do people lie? (So different from the ‘should.’) and the answer to that is all
the time. We lie for social reasons; because we grew up in homes where only
lying made life bearable; because we’re afraid to tell the truth; because we
are too weak to access the truth; because we lack courage; because we are mean;
because we are selfish; because we think we are being kind.
Sometimes lying is a kindness. Other times it is a true sin. I
think, in the end, what good people pray for is the wisdom to know the
difference. I find it endlessly fascinating—especially as my upbringing
engendered two great liars—my sister and me. My husband doesn’t even know how
to lie, so we virtually have a mixed marriage. Being with him has been a lesson
in learning that though my default is lying—I usually don’t have to. I’ve
learned that telling the truth can be comforting. Amazing. He’s learned that he
has an in-house liar when it’s needed. It’s nice to bring something to the marriage
table.
This is one of my favorite interviews, ever! Randy, the last paragraph of this post is simply marvelous - you made me laugh out loud! Caroline, loved your questions.
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